1998/06/23 City Council MinutesRohnert Park City Council Minutes
June 23, 1998
-- The Council of the City of Rohnert Park met this date in regular session
commencing at 6:00 p.m. in the City Offices, 6750 Commerce Boulevard, Rohnert Park,
with Mayor Linda Spiro presiding.
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Linda Spiro called the regular session to order at approximately
6:40 p.m. and led the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL: Present: (4) Councilmembers Flores, Mackenzie, Reilly and Mayor Spiro
Absent: (1) Vice Mayor Vidak- Martinez (due to illness)
Staff present for all or part of the meeting: City Manager Netter, City Attorney Flitner,
Assistant City Manager Leivo, Administrative Assistant to the City Manager Mejia,
Finance Director Harrow, City Engineer Gaffney, Planning Director Schulenburg and
Public Works Manager Stephens.
1. COMMUNITY SUMMIT - Presentation of Summary Report
by Champions of the Task Force Members
Andy Durkee distributed to Council the updated Rohnert Park Summit - Phase I Report of
June 1998, as summarized and compiled by the Next Steps Task Force. He introduced the
representatives present at this Council meeting for this report and provided introductory
comments. Mr. Durkee signified that each group produced informed material, as
previously requested by Council following the three -day Community Summit held last
October, which included each group produced a purpose statement, and listed major issues
which surfaced during the Summit with objectives or recommendations. Champions of the
Task Force Members reviewed highlights of these items for each group as follows:
*Alice Richardson for Economic Vitality, Tourism and Infrastructure;
*Andy Esquivel for Transportation, Boundaries and Housing;
*Andy Durkee, in the absence of Gina Belforte, for Education, Town Center and Youth;
*Barbara Mackenzie for Next Steps (including distribution of Community Summit Survey
of June 1998 for actual comments of feedback received in unedited form); and
*Andy Durkee for the Executive Summary.
The Task Force Champions responded to various Council questions which included
clarification that the time period of six months for a phase seemed reasonable and that future
phases of the same time frame would revisit different points of unresolved concerns.
-- Discussion included Council signifying agreement with suggestion by Councilmember
Flores that it might be advantageous if the Champions wanted to meet with Rick Brown of
the Results Group for a session to focus on Phase II. Council acknowledged the
recommendation of the Champions to consider a combined event for closure of Phase T_ and
opening of Phase II. -- Mayor Spiro encouraged the Task Forces to continue with these
beneficial efforts and to keep up the good work. She signified that the above - recommended
event could be placed on the next Council meeting agenda for consideration regarding how
to proceed with the next phase, suggesting that there may not need to be a closure, but
rather an event to just revitalize these efforts. -- Council commended the above - reviewed
Summary Report and expressed appreciation for the efforts of the Task Forces.
2. CLOSED SESSION: Mayor Linda Spiro reported on the closed session which commenced this
evening at 6:00 to discuss matters listed on the agenda attachment, representing an update,
with no action taken at this time.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Corrections to the previous meeting minutes were made by Council
and signified on original set of minutes.
Upon motion by Councilmember Flores, seconded by Councilmember Mackenzie, the
minutes of June 9, 1998 were unanimously approved as amended.
4. APPROVAL OF BILLS:
Upon motion by Councilmember Mackenzie, seconded by Councilmember Flores, City
bills presented per the attached list in the amount of $626,415.12 were unanimously
approved.
5. ADDING INFORMATIONAL NON - AGENDAED MATTERS:
Mayor Linda Spiro asked Councilmembers or staff if there were any non - agendaed
informational items to add to the agenda. -- Councilmember Mackenzie signified one item to
add regarding the hot air balloon event. -- Councilmember Flores signified an item to add
regarding summary of the June Sonoma County Transportation Authority (SCTA) meeting.
6. YOUTH CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES from 1998 -99 Youth of the Year Program
Mayor Linda Spiro introduced Youth Representatives Senior Vivian Snyder and Junior
Melissa Canning, who provided the youth report which included:
*acknowledging recent arrival of foreign exchange students; and
*reviewed contents of letter distributed to Council from Senior Vivian Snyder referring to
the City's previous commitment to aquatics and reasons for urging consideration of a
50 meter pool and a diving pool/aquatic facility for training and competition in Rohnert
Park (copy attached to original Set of these minutes).
7. SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES:
1) Scott Laube. Co -Chair of "CURB" Citizens Unified for Real Boundaries re Post Measure A
Mr. Laube shared contents of his letter distributed to Council on this item (copy attached
to original set of these minutes) which included acknowledgment that he participated in the
Rohnert Park Community Summit and joined the Boundaries Task Force. He reviewed
concerns about the three -to -two vote Council decision to put the UGB initiative/Measure
A on the June ballot, signifying that three of the Members of the Council misread the
citizens perceived intent of the Community Summit, and disregarded Task Force input.
The coalition CURB - Citizens Unified for Real Boundaries - was formed by a group of
citizens concerned about the Summit process, along with the Greenbelt Alliance and the
Sonoma County Conservation Action.
2) Dave Eck re. "Measure A, General Plan, misc." - Dave Eck reviewed his letter distributed
to Council expressing concerns on the above - referenced issues (copy attached to original
set of these minutes), which included his recommendations listed in the summary attached
to his letter as follows:
Process Ear Expanding U .. (II GB)
•Start with the designated goals and planning areas of the Summit Committee.
*Incorporate the goals such as housing, town centers, industry, commerce into a General Plan.
*Hire an outside planning consultant to work with the City to develop a plan that would take those
areas and permanently plan them.
*Consolidate the areas into a few specific plan areas. For example, 2A and 2C might be a single
specific planning area.
*Create Benefit Assessment Districts - -up to three of them.
W M development were to occur it would be done in such a wav that all parcel owners would gain
some of the benefit. Thus economic benefits to those who develop would be used to preserve the open
space from those who do not.
*Sonoma County Open Space District dollars along with funds from the Benefit Assessment District
would be used to place the undeveloped land into permanent open space and agricultural easements.
*The open space would be used for agriculture and provide sites for resulting reuse of wastewater.
1. This would require a storage site. Perhaps the Vast Oaks Site.
2. This plan would utilize the wastewater pipe already stubbed up to the corner of Snyder and the
Expressway. The pipe could be run up the Expressway right of way for a relatively small cost.
•Hire a planning consultant who specializes in clustering development units into small planned unit
areas and is familiar with redevelopment and infill planning.
Dave Eck concluded his comments recommending the need to review the City's General
Plan; have an open public process with explanation of the process and what the benefits
would be; then a meaningful UGB could be passed that would move toward some
economic vitality. Dr. Eck signified that he would be willing to work within the framework
of the Executive Summary distributed and reviewed at the beginning of this Council
meeting by the signified representatives of the Community Summit Task Forces.
8. UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES: Mayor Linda Spiro stated that in compliance with
State Law (The Brown Act), citizens wishing to make a comment may do so at this time
(limited to 3 -5 minutes per appearance with a 30 minute total time limit).
1) John Hudson, 399 Bonnie Avenue, signified that growth of the area is not inevitable. He
referred to a recent report in the Press Democrat of May 24, 1998 showing dropping water
table and overuse of Russian River water and shared concerns about new subdivisions
covering land and demands for more water threatening public health and safety.
2) Joi Losee, 943 Holiy, referred to numerous documents toward preparation of Measure A and
signified that citizens clearly do not want urban sprawl. She commented on infrastructure
needs, traffic congestion, water concerns, unknowns of the Russian River water, another
Press Democrat article on sewage problems, affordable housing needs of the community, and
the need for accountability when the Council passes something like Measure A. Ms. Losee
referred to her request at the previous Council meeting for a report on the cost of Measure A
and she also wanted to know the cost of the Community Summit. -- Mayor Spiro advised
the report was listed later on the agenda under the City Manager's Report.
Mayor Spiro reviewed the titles of the items listed on the Consent Calendar.
Acknowledging the City Manager /Clerk's report on the posting of the meeting's agenda
Acceptance of Cash/Investments Report for Month End, May 31, 1998
Resolution Nos:
98 -121 PROCLAIMING JULY 1998 "PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH"
98 -122 PROCLAIMING SUN., AUG. 2, 1998 "INTERNATIONAL FORGIVENESS DAY"
98 -123 PROCLAIMING TUESDAY, AUGUST 4, 1998 "NATIONAL NIGHT OUT"
98 -124 AUTHORIZING CLASSIFICATIONS AND SALARIES FOR CITY POSITIONS
98 -125 REJECTING THE CLAIM OF FRANCESCA M. TEDESCO (re. alleged injury
from slip and fall at Tea Dance for Seniors at Community Center)
98 -126 REJECTING THE CLAIM OF DEVIN A. ANDERSON (CLAIMANT)/DAVID
AND MONA ANDERSON (PARENTS) (re. alleged injury from fall on basket -ball
court at Hahn School Multi -Use Room)
Confirming Planning Commission Approval of Revised Building Design for Les
Schwab Tire Store (File No. 1770)
Approving the Appointment of Karen Mejia as Deputy City Clerk
Upon motion by Councilmember Flores, seconded by Councilmember Mackenzie, with the
absence of Vice Mayor Vidak - Martinez, the Consent Calendar as outlined on the
meeting's agenda, was unanimously approved.
RECESS: Mayor Linda Spiro declared a recess at approximately 8:10 p.m.
RECONVENE: Mayor Spiro reconvened the Council meeting at approximately 8:20 p.m. With the
exception of Vice Mayor Vidak - Martinez, all other Councilmembers were present.
11. PRESENTATION OF THE PROPOSED 1998 -99 CITY OF ROHNERT PARK BUDGET
1) Staff report -- City Manager Netter advised the Proposed 1998 -99 City Budget was
distributed to Council for review prior to scheduling the budget work sessions. Mr. Netter
explained the staff report provided to Council signifying approximately seventeen new
personnel requests by all the departments, which have been narrowed down to four
additional employees recommended in the 1998 -99 budget. He advised that a projected
two -year General Fund budget was also provided for Council's review. City Manager
Netter and Finance Director Harrow responded to Council questions related to these items.
-- Discussion concluded in Council request for staff to prepare a five -year projection for
the General Fund budget both with and without consideration of Vehicle License Fees.
Councilmember Reilly leaves /returns -- Councilmember Reilly left the Council Chamber during the
preceding discussion at approximately 8:28 p.m. and returned at approximately 8:30 p.m.
.
2) State's Proposal to Motor Vehicle Fees (VLF) Reduction & ACA 42
City Manager Netter advised that Council had been provided with a variety of letters and
reports related to this item. In response to extensive efforts to reduce Vehicle License
Fees, the League of California Cities has been taking a very active position toward having a
constitutional amendment to protect these fees which provide important revenues to local
government, and would require a vote of the people. Indications of the League are that
it probably would not pass, so current efforts are to try to get this removed as an initiative
on the ballot. This will be an item of discussion at the next City Managers' meeting.
-- Discussion included Mayor Spiro commenting on the review of this item at the recent
North Bay Division meeting. It was recommended that not only every Council should
write letters responding to this concern, but also encouraged each Councilmember and
citizens to do the same, due to the impact this would have on local revenues.
3) Set time and date for Council Budget Work Sessions -- Discussion concluded in Council
concurrence to schedule work sessions for the 1998 -99 Budget on Friday, July 24th from
6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m., and Monday, July 27th from 4:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.
10. MEASURE A - WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
Written communications were distributed to Council on this item from Councilmember Reilly
dated June 10, 1998 and from Councilmember Mackenzie dated June 23, 1998.
Council discussion of this item included comments as follows:
*Mayor Linda Spiro advised this could not be listed as a proposal on the meeting agenda
as Councilmember Mackenzie's recommendations were not received until earlier today.
Mayor Spiro commended the first step recommended by Councilmember Mackenzie in
regard to convening a workshop. Mayor Spiro urged Council support to have a Council
Committee for this effort, because the Council now knows what the citizens do not want,
and proposed the formation of a Council Committee of Councilmembers Reilly and
Flores to go to the community and find,out what the citizens want.
*Councilmember Flores responded he would be willing to serve on the Committee.
•Councilmember Reilly signified he did not mind the idea of going out and meeting the
public, however, since he and Councilmember Flores were both up for election in
November, this Committee should be comprised of others.
*Mayor Spiro responded she had put a lot of thought into this and thought it was a good
idea for Councilmembers Reilly and Flores to be on this Committee.
*Councilmember Reilly expressed the preference to think about it, as it was not a question
of wanting to do it, or not, but it may be something that should involve the full Council.
He was not sure at this point that the response to Measure A is best handled by the old
forms of procedure and it would be beneficial for the full Council to receive citizen input.
*Councilmember Flores suggested that he and Councilmember Reilly discuss the matter
and come back with a decision at the next Council meeting.
®Mayor Linda Spiro shared that the most effective meetings held in the past were the very
small meetings in neighborhoods.
*Councilmember Reilly indicated that he would like for this matter to be an action item on
the next Council agenda, prepared for the vote of the full Council, and to come with the
rules of how the Committee is to function, if a Committee proceeds to set up
neighborhood meeting, or it could be the same for the full Council of five. Mr. Reilly
commented that whether Councilmember Flores and the Mayor, or Councilmember
Flores and he put this together, the need remains to have the full Council unanimously
support the direction, because any other response to Measure A, in his mind, would be
insufficient. Councilmember Reilly signified that he would be happy to review this matter
further with Councilmember Flores.
•Councilmember Mackenzie raised a point of order regarding his request at the previous
Council meeting for this proposal to be listed as an action item on this agenda,
and signified making a MOTION at this time to introduce his proposal.
*Discussion ensued with differing views expressed on whether or not it was appropriate
for this to be an action item due to the timing of the proposal distributed earlier today.
*Mayor Spiro noted, for the record, that taking action on this item tonight would be
changing standard procedures.
*Councilmember Mackenzie signified that, for the sake of harmony, he would withdraw
his motion at this time and read his proposal into the record, and then ask for it to be
scheduled on the next Council meeting agenda for action. Councilmember Mackenzie
shared contents of his proposal presented to Council earlier today, as follows:
A Proposal to Implement Measure N - "Peace in our Time"
It is now time to follow the purpose laid out in Measure N to "manage the Citv's growth consistent
with the availability of infrastructure and services" and to follow its clear legislative intent to use our
time wisely until the year 2000 so that a true 20 year Urban Growth boundary can be put in place. The
General Plan update should be placed on hold until we take the following steps to accomplish the intent of
Measure N:
Step 1 Convene a workshop to meet with ALL the regulatory and logistical parties involved in
Rohnert Park's quest for a carefully thought out future.
Step 2 Salvage the data- gathering efforts accomplished as of this date.
Step 3 Hire an independent specialist in planning and community participation to properly update our
General flan and to properly involve the public. 'Terminate the Sohagi contract immediately.
Step 4 Using the Hudson Report [City of Rohnert Park Community Issues Report] as a guide, identify
and cost out community needs, then start a community review of the various options in the
above report to give direction to the General Plan Update and creation of a true 20 year UGB.
Step 5 Such a UGB measure can then be voted on in the primary election of March 2000, once the
General Plan has been environmentally reviewed, the AG Preservation and Open Space District
involved, the Cotati - Rohnert park School District consulted, our neighbors in Canon Manor,
Cotati and Sonoma State fully engaged in the debate, and a true community consensus achieved.
All these steps have been rejected by the Council majority through 3 -2 votes over the past
year and a half.
The Rohnert Park City Council can today show its citizens that their demand for The Right UGB
was heard. The Council can do this by reversing the recently rejected policies of the past 18 months and
,'move forward with a growth control plan drawn from the broadest community input ". Then there can
indeed be "Peace in our Time ". /s/Jake Mackenzie 6/23/98
Councilmember Mackenzie signified he would amend this document to remove the rhetoric
and submit it by mid -day on Tuesday of the next Council meeting packet time frame.
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eCouncil shared varied speculations that could result in peaceful efforts toward directives
pertaining to UGB related concerns.
*Councilmember Reilly referred to his memo of June 10, 1998 provided in the Council packets
regarding "Give Peace a Chance ", a -La., "Measure A - Where Do We Go From Here ? ".
Mr. Reilly signified he was not going to read his memo at this time, but expressed concern
that Council comments related to this matter are still somewhat missing the point, and that this
is why he did not accept the Mayor's Committee assignment, due to still looking for the
majority of this Council to tell him what the plan is. He expressed concern about the
possibility of the intent being just to keep him busy over the next few months, which is what
he thought the Community Summit was, and signified that this Council needs to come up with
a plan, rather than start sending out these little distractions. Councilmember Reilly commented
that he was somewhat cynical before the Summit, and he is even more so now with anything
that even hints at somewhat of a false promise. He was ready to second the above motion by
Councilmember Mackenzie, as signified by the previous Council meeting minutes to schedule
this on the next meeting agenda. Mr. Reilly shared that now, the majority says they need to
have plenty of time to read it, and he felt there was plenty of time to read the single page
proposal received earlier today, but the absence of the Vice Mayor from this meeting was
good enough reason to wait until the next Council meeting for action on this item.
*Mayor Linda Spiro referred to spending a lot of time with the former Council in efforts to get
the lines changed. She signified that, even though she did not like the lines selected for
Measure A, it was better than before, so she saw no reason not to support the efforts to show
*(1) y consistency. Mayor Spiro noticed in Councilmember Mackenzie's proposal
the reference for a UGB measure in March 2000, and commented that, if Council wants to
vote on it tonight, *(2) to show her sincerity in working together with the citizens and the
Council she would support a ballot measure that makes sense to the community, and she
would be happy to make a motion in support of putting a UGB on the ballot and working
toward the March 2000 ballot. She signified that this is one of the ways it can be done, but did
not think it should be voted on tonight, but could certainly do it at the next Council meeting.
*(1 & 2) C O R R E C T 10 N S ABOVE from 7/14/98 City Council meeting: Per Mayor Linda Spiro (deletion lined out/addition underlined)
•Councilmember Flores shared that the perspective to try to be unanimous is very important
and commended Councilmember Mackenzie on his above comments to revise the proposal to
remove the rhetoric. Mr. Flores signified that he and Councilmember *#laeken,-ie Reilly
would work together on this and would prepare a formal proposal for the next Council
meeting agenda. Councilmember Flores expressed agreement with comments made earlier
tonight by the Community Summit Champions that there needs to be a process that includes
the community. Mr. Flores also signified that he thought there will need to be independent
people involved in the process.
*C O R R E C T 10 N ABOVE from 7/14/98 City Council meeting: Per Councilmember Mackenzie (deletion lined out/addition underlined)
*Councilmember Reilly expressed concern that his position may not be understood as, to him,
it has never been about the lines. He shared that unless we have a plan on how we can protect
the various interests, he is not interested in just moving lines, as this gives a false sense of
direction. The lines have been where they are now ever since he has been on this Council.
Councilmember Reilly signified that he wanted to know zoning costs, sewer and water needs,
etc. and plan for everything, and shared that just drawing lines does not plan, so if we can
change that to know what we are going to build and where we are going to build it, would be
acceptable. Mr. Reilly commented that just drawing lines is not acceptable to him.
*City Manager Netter requested a point of clarification, due to the Planning Commission
waiting for Council direction, noting that there are aspects of the General Plan that do not
relate directly to the urban growth issue.
*Mayor Linda Spiro referred to previous Council comments following the Community Summit
from Councilmember Mackenzie asking if the General Plan process was now going to be
stopped. Ms. Spiro signified that that was not what the Summit was all about and efforts of
the General Plan should continue to move along.
* Councilmember Reilly commented that he has flagged numerous items on elements of the
General Plan that he wanted to discuss, all of which refer to things outside the city limits in
anticipation of Measure A passing. He signified that he has no problem with the Planning
Commission continuing with the General Plan Update, but did think they should go back and
take out all of those references. If these come back to the Council, he will specifically go over
all of those items referring to Measure A.
*Mayor Spiro asked if it matters if the Planning Commission does the General Plan Update and
exceeds the boundaries because the City is not going to be doing anything there anyway.
* Councilmember Reilly expressed concerns about having language in the General Plan that
would somehow fit in our existing city limits, but to refer to a vision is premature because we
have to look at a vision as something we want to consider. Mr. Reilly commented that since
Measure A does not exist anymore, that, to him, seems to be the crux of the matter.
* Councilmember Flores recommended that the Planning Commission focus on technical
elements of the General Plan, and then wait for more clarity from the City Council from the
next Council meeting.
* Councilmember Mackenzie signified that if Measure A had passed, efforts would have
proceeded in that direction. However, Measure A was so closely tied to the items voted on
and ended up showing up in the exhibits. It seemed to him that while there might be some
technical aspects, like wastewater elements and subregional plant issues, it appeared to him
that the documents he has seen were relevant to what the voters elected. He shared in a
recent discussion with Planning Commissioner Shawn Kilat that to continue working on the
documents currently in front of them, is not time well spent. There is the need to stop at this
point and take a look at what we have from the Community Summit, the Hudson Report, etc.
and wait until after we, as five members of this Council, have a chance to come up with a
plan. Councilmember Mackenzie commented that he and Councilmember Reilly have signified
that there has to be some agreement amongst the five of us as a Council before we come up
with a proposal. He believed this could be accomplished if Council follows the above-
reviewed guidelines. Mr. Mackenzie signified that he wanted to be very clear that he meant
what he said with reference to hiring an independent consultant.
*Mayor Linda Spiro responded that perhaps Council could discuss that at the same time it
considers the proposal at the next Council meeting, as it would depend on the outcome of the
Council's discussion and resulting action. Mayor Spiro signified that, at the same time, she
would like to have staff review what we can or cannot do regarding lands around the
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community, which are designated in the General Plan *(1) Update, to ensure no violations.
Ms. Spiro explained that her goal for saying this, since Measure N was voted on two years
ago and Council never determined boundaries, was to ensure establishing the line, so when we
get to the year 2000, it would be clear. She would not want to get to the year *(2) 2892 2000
and say that we have to update the General Plan again, but would like to say, this is what we
want to do, and then we could do an amendment later.
*(1 & 2) C O R R E C T 10 N S ABOVE from 7/14/98 City Council meeting: Per Mayor Linda Spiro (additions underlined /deletion lined out)
*Councilmember Mackenzie shared that he wanted to be very clear then in what he is
proposing, which is to include an urban growth boundary as part of that General Plan Update
to the year 2000, so he agreed with what the Mayor was saying, but as Councilmember Reilly
said, do not start out with putting lines out there. If, in deed, there is some other need, such
as facilities, then let's look at these possibilities, then we can move forward, similar to the way
the Cities of Sebastopol and Healdsburg proceeded.
•Councilmember Reilly signified this was not clear on the message Council is sending to the
Planning Commission, to which Mayor Spiro responded, nothing at this point.
•Councilmember Reilly shared his concern that he previously thought communications on the
Middle School were fairly clear, but resulted in differing views, so he wanted to ensure clarity
of the message Council is giving to the Planning Commission. If in their deliberations and
review of the elements, something is in place as a result of Measure A, then they need to stop
everything, so there is not only compliance for the existing city limits, but will also coincide
with the election results. Mr. Reilly personally thought it sends the wrong message to
encourage the Planning Commission to continue in this manner with so many factors involving
Measure A. He signified that the whole point is to try to bring harmony to the Planning
Commission like the City Council is trying to do. Because we do not have a specific plan,
questions need to addressed like what growth rate would achieve full build out by the year
2000, projections for the new urban growth boundary, timing for 1 1/2% growth rate, etc.
*Mayor Spiro suggested deferring further comments on this matter to the next Council
meeting. Council agreed. (Continued on page 11 of these minutes).
12. COUNCIL COMMITTEE AND /OR OTHER REPORTS:
1) Founder's Day Event (Reilly/Mackenzie)
City Manager Netter advised the staff report from Public Works Manager Bill Stephens
was provided to Council highlighting results of the June 18th meeting of the Founder's Day
Parade Committee. Mr. Stephens acknowledged that the Building Bridges Committee
confirmed at a meeting earlier this afternoon that they would be pleased to handle the
organization of this event.
2) Mayors' meeting, - Rohnert Park/Cotati. 6/17/98
Mayor Linda Spiro reported that this was a productive meeting which included discussion
of Joint Dispatch with City Managers, Animal Shelter Services for Cotati, Clean-up of
Commerce Boulevard between Cotati and Rohnert Park, Building Inspection Services Cost
Sharing, brainstorming for Senior Advisory Commissions and library services, and a
beautification project starting at the bridge between the cities to compliment both sides and
represent what can be done together.
3) Mayors' & Councilmembers Assn Executive Meeting 6/11/98 (Mackenzie)
Councilmember Mackenzie reported on this meeting he attended with the City Manager,
advising that he gave the report on current efforts in Rohnert Park. Mr. Mackenzie
mentioned the vacant seat on the Airport Land Use Commission which the Mayor will be
dealing with later through the Mayors' City Selection Committee. Councilmember
Mackenzie acknowledged his continued interest in the vacancy on the County Agricultural
Preservation & Open Space District Advisory Committee and that he would appreciate
Council support. -- Mayor Spiro noted Council concurrence of this interest and
encouraged Councilmembers to write letters of support.
4) League of Calif Cities' North Bay Division Quarterly Meeting 6/18/98 (Spiro)
Mayor Linda Spiro reported that this was a very good meeting and well attended. The
Mayor requested staff to transcribe notes of the informative Vehicle License Fee (VLF)
report, since noise of the group of people next to them prevented hearing it sufficiently.
Also, important information was provided on the Data International Corp. regarding the
role of technology between old and new ways of doing business and concerns about how
the nationwide /global internet year 2000 problem can be handled.
5) Canon Manor Committee meetin (Mackenzie)
Councilmember Mackenzie advised the next Canon Manor Committee meeting has been
scheduled at City Hall, Monday, June 29th at 8:30 a.m.
13. TRANSPORTATION matters:
1) Sonoma County Transportation Authority (SCTA) 6/8/98 meeting results
Councilmember Flores signified that he and City Engineer Gaffney attended this meeting.
Mr. Flores reviewed highlights of the meeting via his written report distributed to Council
regarding items discussed as follows: 1 Preliminary Budget.
1998 -99 -The budget
reflects increased costs in contract services with the County of Sonoma and conservative
revenue figures. With this in mind, there is an increased cost for the city of $1,388. Our
projected cost is $8,065. The total budget is $559,339. (2) Le &illation - No action has
been taken regarding the Vehicle License Tax bills. Continued communication with our
state representatives is requested. Cities need the revenue. (3) ISTEA Reauthorization -
TEA 21, the new authorization provides for a 75% return to source of revenue and 25%
discretionary. Yet to be determined is the formula for returning the 75% to each county.
In the past, the return to source was based on population. The issue will be discussed on
June 26th by the Bay Area Partnership. Based on this discussion, a recommendation will
be made to the MTC Commissioners. (4) 1996 -97 Audit - This specific year audit
revealed no major findings. Recommendations that were made are noted as follows:
a) timely deposit of receipts; b) SCTA approval of expenditures; and c) timely billing for
funding from MTC. (5) Sonoma/Marin Rail Implementation Plan - Being discussed are:
a) obtaining Proposition 116 Funds; b) start-up of passenger rail; c) formation of a JPA;
d) environmental clearance; and e) rail technology.
Discussion included Councilmember Mackenzie signifying that he attended a
meeting looking into Proposition 116. The lines are very tight and efforts are working on
the ultimate passage to make sure Prop. 116 moneys are obtained. He believed all the
work has to be done by next year and environmental impact studies are already starting.
- -Mayor Spiro signified it would be beneficial for Councilmember Mackenzie to provide
Council with any additional information he has on this item.
AGENDA ORDER: Mayor Linda Spiro re- opened the GENERAL PLAN UPDATE item, as
requested by Planning Director Wendy Schulenburg and Planning Commissioner Greg
Nordin for further clarification of directions, as there will be two Planning Commission
meetings prior to the next City Council meeting. -- Discussion concluded with Council
concurrence that the Planning Commission should only continue working on the
Conservation Element in terms of updating it related to efforts of the Subregional
Wastewater Treatment System, due to concerns expressed by Councilmember Mackenzie
about data in the Housing Element related to Measure A and the need to wait until after
the next City Council meeting before proceeding any further on this element and, also, as
suggested by Councilmember Flores, to proceed with technical elements of the General
Plan within the city limits and to wait for further direction by the City Council.
14. AMERICA'S PROMISE - Council direction on Staff resources
A motion was made by Councilmember Reilly, seconded by Councilmember Mackenzie, to
refer this concept to the City Manager to use his discretion as to the direction, structure
and City participation efforts.
City Manager Netter responded to Council questions that this represents consideration of a
$10,000 grant from the Free Friday Program and is an item that the City's Commission for
Community Outreach for Youth and Families (COYF) was considering. Mr. Netter
recommended providing a staff person to focus on efforts toward obtaining the specific
grant, which would probably take a few days of actual staff time to write the grant request
and handle the grant application process. -- It was the consensus of the Council to
support efforts toward obtaining this grant and, also, signifying that if this is going to be
done as a project of the City, then staff via the City Manager needs to take charge of the
procedures. -- City Manager Netter confirmed this is time sensitive and made it clear that
he would identify one staff person to handle this grant application process.
The above motion was unanimously approved with Vice Mayor Vidak - Martinez absent.
15. COMMUNICATIONS: Communications per the attached outline were brought to the attention
of the City Council. No action was taken unless specifically noted in these minutes.
1) City Manager Netter referred to item 41 on Communications, for informational purposes,
from U. S. Conference of Mayors regarding "Strengthening Public Schools in America's
Cities: Mayors Action Plan ".
2) City Manager Netter referred to item #2 on Communications, also for informational
purposes, from Ruth Lefkowitz, Coordinator of Youth & Family Services, regarding
revised meeting schedule of Saluting Teamwork.
3) City Manager Netter referred to item #45 on Communications regarding a draft letter
prepared over the Mayor's signature to Legislators urging opposition to AB 2065
exempting home -based businesses from being levied business taxes.
Upon motion by Councilmember Flores, seconded by Councilmember Mackenzie, and
unanimously approved, with Vice Mayor Vidak - Martinez absent, to send the above -
referenced letter as presented.
16. MATTERS FROM/FOR COUNCIL:
1) Proposal to Enact Ordinance to Itemize Political Contributions (Mackenzie)
2) Proposal to Amend Sign Ordinance for Political Sign Locations (Mackenzie)
Councilmember Mackenzie signified to table the above two items.
3) Mayors' & Councilmembers Assn General Meeting July 9th City of Cotati ACA 42 Program
•City Selection Committee Meeting @ 6:30 p.m.
Vacant Seat - Airport Land Use Commission Term expires 5/1999
Mayor Linda Spiro announced this meeting and advised there is no recommendation for the
above - referenced opening at this time, but one inquiry has been received.
4) Balloon Aeronauts of Sonoma Count (Mackenzie)
Representing the Mayor in her absence, Councilmember Mackenzie advised that he attended
the event hosted by Ed Grossi Farms for the Balloon Aeronauts of Sonoma County,
beginning at 6:00 a.m. a week ago last Saturday. Mr. Mackenzie reported on the success of
this event and commended the promotional efforts of the Chamber of Commerce on behalf
of same. Councilmember Reilly recommended a letter of appreciation over the Mayor's
signature to the groups involved with this event. Council concurred.
5) Bob Weinmann Memorial recognition (Flores)
Councilmember Flores recommended proceeding with arrangements for installation of a
memorial brick at Roberts Lake Park in memory of Bob Weinmann, who passed away
recently and was a Senior Citizen Advisory Commissioner. Council concurred.
EXTEND COUNCIL MEETING: Upon motion by Councilmember Mackenzie, seconded by
Councilmember Flores, and unanimously approved, to extend the Council meeting past
10:00 p.m. to finish necessary agenda items.
6) Proposed Joint Meeting with Sonoma County Board of_Supervisors (Reilly)
Councilmember Reilly commented on recent newspaper quotes by signified County
Supervisors concerning the City of Rohnert Park. -- Discussion followed and concluded
in Council concurrence with recommendation by Councilmember Reilly to proceed with a
letter over the Mayor's signature inviting the entire Sonoma County Board of Supervisors
to a joint dinner meeting with the full City Council sometime during the month of August.
17. CITE' MANAGER'S REPORT:
1) Community School progress - update -- City Manager Netter advised that this staff report,
dated June 18, 1998 from City Engineer Gaffney, was provided for Council's information.
2) COPS MORE Federal Grant - update -- City Manager Netter referred to previous discussions
and Council directions for this item and signified the memorandum dated June 12, 1998 from
Mike Dunbaugh of the Santa Rosa Police Department regarding the CAD/RMS/MDC Project
Update was provided for Council's information. Mr. Netter advised the matching portion for
Rohnert Park of approximately $350,000 may increase up to $369,000. He advised that
Finance Director Harrow has confirmed there are funds in the City's budget for most of the
matching portion. City Manager Netter shared comments on the importance of this
opportunity toward obtaining this countywide system. Council concurred.
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3) Public Safety Statistical Comparison
City Manager Netter signified this staff report dated June 16, 1998 from Director of Public
Safety Rooney, prepared by Commander Williams, was provided for Council's information.
Council agreed it would be beneficial for Director Rooney to make a presentation on this at
a future Council meeting, but suggested waiting until the additional data is available,
mentioned in the report, on comparisons with cities similar in size to Rohnert Park.
4) ISO Building Code Effectiveness Rating
City Manager Netter advised the staff report dated June 16, 1998 from Building Official
Braun regarding Insurance Services Office (ISO) Building Code Effectiveness Rating
was provided to Council for this item. This was previously instituted by Interim Building
Official Steve Lamb pertaining to efforts toward upgrading the Building Department.
City Manager Netter was happy to report that Rohnert Park's Building Department
received a rating classification No. 4, with 1 being the highest and 10 being the lowest.
Mr. Netter signified that Mr. Braun could be invited to review details of the report at a
future Council meeting, if Council so desired. -- Council signified that would not be
necessary and expressed appreciation for the sufficiency of the written report. Council
noted the comparison that the larger cities generally receive higher scores and commended
the results of this rating classification for the City's Building Department.
5) "A Child's Portion" Food Program
City Manager Netter signified that this report dated June 17, 1998 from Interim
Recreation Director Mikalis, was provided for the benefit of Vice Mayor Vidak - Martinez.
Council agreed to defer this report to its next meeting to enable review by the full Council.
6) Costs of Measure A Measure N and Measure M
City Manager Netter signified deferral of this item to the next Council meeting, advising that
staff is in the process of preparing this report, as requested by Council at the previous
Council meeting.
7) Rohnert Park Library False Alarm Fee
City Manager Netter explained this letter dated June 3, 1998 from the Sonoma County
Library requesting exemption from the false alarm fees as a City owned building, and
responded to Council questions. -- Mayor Spiro signified the preference not to change
policy unless reasons are appropriate. Council concurred for the City Manager to use his
discretion on this matter.
8) Dynamic Leadership Associates - Carl Clarke Proposal for recruitment assistance
City Manager Netter explained this proposal for assistance in the recruitment of the position
of Recreation Director in the approximate amount of $3,500. He recommended placing the
item on the next Council meeting agenda for ratification and, due to being time sensitive,
requested Council approval at this time. Council concurred.
9) Sonoma County Tourism Strategic Plan 1998-2003
City Manager Netter referred to his memorandums dated June 15, 1998 and June 23, 1998
provided to Council explaining, consecutively, the preliminary and the more comprehensive
documents for this item. Written comments on the plan are due on June 30, 1998 with a
final report to be submitted to the Supervisors at its meeting of July 21, 1998. Mr. Netter
advised he has discussed the Strategic Plan with the Consultants of Lance and Associates, as
well as Joe Topper of the Double Tree, Robin Bleckwehl, President of the Chamber of
Commerce, and Linda Johnson, Executive Director of the Sonoma County Wineries
Ascnniatinn f'it., .
,�i INULLGi is in the process of writing a letter to be submitted to the
Economic Development Board of Sonoma County to make recommendations on the
proposed tourism marketing organization structure, including the City of Rohnert Park
securing a permanent seat on the Board. He will keep the Council informed. Mr. Netter
recommended holding the $38,300 in abeyance in the 1998 -99 City budget, in the interim,
until decisions are made on this item. Council concurred.
10) Press Democrat article "Too much water down the drain"
City Manager Netter referred to copies of this June 22nd Press Democrat article provided.
for Council's information. He recommended that the City of Rohnert Park also encourage
water conservation by notices in utility bills, cable TV announcements and other forms of
publicity. Council agreed with this recommendation. Mayor Spiro commented on the need
for clarification that this is not about running out of water, but concerns water discharge.
11) Lobbyist efforts for local funds
City Manager Netter referred to copies of another June 22nd Press Democrat article
provided for Council's information on lobbyist efforts of neighboring cities to counteract
state efforts that have shifted billions of dollars away from cities over the past few years.
Mr. Netter signified that Rohnert Park may want to get involved in this effort and he is
researching the matter to see if joint efforts should be considered with other North Bay
Cities. Mayor Spiro added, or at least a County lobbyist could be considered.
1S. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT:
1) Any items from closed session -- The Mayor's report on the closed session was sufficient.
2) City Council Executive Sessions/Rules of Conduct Review
City Attorney Flitner advised his memorandum of June 9, 1998 was previously provided to
Council for this item. He commented that the Council may want to revisit the resolution
on the code of ethics, but it was rather recently adopted by Resolution No. 94 -86 in 1994
and renewed by change of date only by adoption of Resolution No. 97 -32 in 1997. Council
signified agreement that the 1997 resolution is satisfactory for the City's Code of Ethics.
19. UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES: Mayor Linda Spiro asked if there were any
additional unscheduled public appearances at this time. No one responded.
20. ADJOURNMENT: Mayor Linda Spiro adjourned the meeting at approximately 10:17 p.m.
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Letter to the city council 6/23/98,// t,
I am one of the many Rohnert Park citizens who participated in the RP
community summit. I ended up joining thci boundaries task force and attended
every meeting up to the March 11th meetin,. On February 10th, Armando Flores
presented his UGB initiative to the city council. The initiative was passed by 3 of
the 5 council members. This initiative was put forth to the voters as Measure A.
I attended the Boundaries task force meeting the following night to hear what our
charter was now that there was a boundaries measure on the ballot for June 2 "d
The one thing that was discussed at this meeting that seemed reasonable was
what is this task force going to do if measure A fails. The way that the
boundaries task force acted, in my opinion, was clearly a case of ready, fire, now
aim mentality.
By approving Measure A for the June ballot, three of the members of the council
mis -read the citizens perceived intent of the community summit. If the task force
input was going to be disregarded on the boundaries issue, if we really weren't
going to effect council actions on growth, such as measure A, we should have
been told this before wasting our valuable time.
A group of citizens who felt betrayed by the summit process along with the
Greenbelt Alliance and the Sonoma County Conservation Action got together to
discuss what we could do about this situation. We ended up creating a coalition
we called CURB: Citizens United for Real Boundaries. I agreed to be co -chair of
this group. We attracted a significant amount of Rohnert Park citizen volunteers,
which included many task force members, to help defeat measure A. All of the
credit goes to these people who spent their valuable time to perform the
necessary tasks that defeated this measure. As we all now know, measure A
was soundly defeated with a 67% or 2 vote against A to 1 vote for A margin.
Measure A did not get enough votes to carry even one precinct in all of Rohnert
Park.
Measure A:
Short circuited the community summit process
Repealed measure N too early - this was not acceptable
Contained a loop hole - no voter controlled growth
Contained NO specific language regarding open space
The voters of Rohnert Park have spoken. We hope that the council is listening.
It seems obvious that the council has not been aligned with what the people of
Rohnert Park want regarding future growth of their city. Every roll taken has
given the same result: the majority of the people of Rohnert Park want a small
town. Historical fact: the original plan for Rohnert Park had a population target of
40,000 people. We now stand at about 39,500 and we continue to build on every
available open space within the city limits. Our observations from people we
talked to in our precinct walks is that the people want to "preserve their current
views" and "small town atmosphere ". There also seems to be a perception that
Rohnert Park is starting to get congested without any more growth outside of the
current city limits.
CURB is not necessarily a NO GROWTH organization. CURB is nr. :disbanding
just yet. We want to collaborate with the council (or whoever is char`ered to
create the next UGB initiative) to come up with a process which ready includes
citizen input, that creates a real working UGB that is VOTER CONTROLLED by
the citizens, contains mandated open space language and time phasing or bench
marking of any future growth or annexation of land. There has to be enough time
allotted for this effort to make sure that we proceed in a ready, aim, fire manner
before presenting anything to the voters of Rohnert Park again.
Rohnert Park City Council
It appears that three members of this Council still do not get the message. Your attempts at trying to
pass off bogus general plans and Urban Growth Boundaries just do not seem to have fooled the voters.
As has been pointed out by the Press Democrat, the Grand Jury your lines and plans are directly linked to
the developers who have funded your campaigns, the No on N campaign and the Yes on Measure A
campaign. It seems no matter how you chose to approach the General Plan the underling policy decision
always centers around the controversial Roger /Condiotti acreage. In spite of the slick efforts of Santa
Rosa campaign consultants, Delphi, the voters have twice said stop.
I think you were mislead by the closeness of measure N. You somehow assumed that it meant the
voters wanted expansive growth. I said then, and I contend now that the measure was close in large part
to the fact than N was not restrictive enough. In fact right now I think a UGB fixing the Rohnert Park's
current lines in a more permanent fashion would pass. Based on the response I received from the voter in
the precincts I walked, I think a version of UGB similar to the Sebastopol or Novato measure is about the
only thing you(or we) might sell to the voters. My gut feeling is that is the direction I would like to
pursue. The three pro A members of the council talk of compromise but so far have acted unilaterally.
Those of us who wish to see strong language in the general plan regarding open space, agricultural lands
and proposals for funding the infrastructure for development have been repeatedly betrayed. Measure'N
was designed to allow compromise. In retrospect I wish that I would have made it the 20 year UGB and
been done with this mess.
However, I do believe that the future of Rohnert Park depends on some additional economic growth I
will once again state what I think is a planning process that can work. In fact this was the proposal I made
to the Borders Task force the night after you abandoned the Summit process and announced your lines in
Measure A. Perhaps now that the voters have so loudly spoken the Council will try to work in a way that
will give us a future plan that can be supported by the full council and by nearly all constituencies in the
community.
See the attached pages.
Based on the current status of the planning process I would recommend a couple of additional items.
• The community summit as it now stands is not in any way representative of the original summit.
The goals and objectives the Champions are pushing have never been it by the Summit. In most
cases the task forces were ripped apart by the intervention of Measure A. The Summit as it now
stands is now more of partnership between the Council and the Chamber of Commerce. Few
residents have had any direct involvement in the latter stages of the process. I would recommend
some reformation of the Summit Committee.
• The majority of this council seem to resist any kind of public hearing on the process. When Linda
limited the public to one minute of debate on measure A you precluded any real compromise
involving the public. Full and complete public involvement must be part of the next step.
• You must remove Carl Levee from the General Plan. As long as he is the direct staff member there
is no way on can believe that the process will be fair and unbiased. His involvement in Measure
N, Measure A and three of your council campaigns leaves his judgment suspect. The early stages
of the Summit with the outside facilitators was a good model. Go back to it. Have outside
professionals involved in the plan.
• Finally, the Council majority needs to recognize that there is a large group of people you do not .
seem to hear. They are way more aware of what growth does for them than you give them credit
for. The old adage "grow or die" really is not very marketable anymore. If you are going to talk
about more development you need to be aware that they are already experience the breakdown of
our infrastructure. They see the new traffic lights, the delays in traffic. the transportation sales tax,
the declining water table, the problems with the Russian River, and the high costs of sewage
disposal and do not need to be told of the high costs growth. Take the time, use the General ;Plan
process to show them how you can do economic growth for the City without imposing an
economic and environmental liability to them and I think they can be convinced to move ahead.
Border Committee
From: Dave
Re: General Plan
The following items are what I feel should happen with the General Plan:
• Continue to move ahead with the Committee's and Councils recommended economic analysis of
the General Plan
• Declare that the lands to the north of the City are to be designated community separator /open space
and facilitate their acquisition by the Open Space District
• Have a stated goal for housing of meeting the "fair share" as compiled by ABAG or some other
planning agency
• In three years or less have a permanent UGB policy. The Novato model seems to be a good one
• Take the designated areas from the general plan committee and hirer an outside planning consultant
to work with the City to develop a plan that would take those areas and permanently plan them. It
would be my intention to consolidate the areas into a few specific plan areas. For example 2A and
2C would be a single specific planning area. ffany development were to occur it would be done in
such away that all parcel owners would gain some of the benefit. This economic return coupled
with dollars from the Sonoma County Open Space District would place the remaining land into
permanent open space easements which would be available for agriculture with the resulting reuse of
wastewater. Their are planning consultants who specialize in clustering development units into small
planned unit areas.
• Consider the creation of one specific plan area to the north of SSU and one to the South of SSU.
And one to the West of the out to Stoney Point Road Have an outside planning team incorporate the
goals of the Community Summit into a development plan.
• The Specific Plans would be planned to provide
Maximum open space
Employment Opportunities
Wastewater irrigation
Schools
Recreational facilities
Fair Share Housing
City Revenues
Minimum impacts on infrastructure
• Determine the legality of re- subdivision and increased clustering of units on the undeveloped
parcels (on the south) in Cannon Manor. This could be used to increase the sense of open space,
provide parks or other recreational facilities and would lower the costs of adding the infrastructure
required to bring the area up to minimal urban standards.
• Consider the possibility of feathering the transition of urban to open space with some sort of open
space for community use. Such uses would have to be consistent with the Open Space Districts
requirements for such uses.
Process For Expanding ULL (UGB)
• Start with the designated goals and planning areas of the Summit
Committee.
• Incorporate the goals such as housing, town centers, industry, commerce
into a General Plan.
• Hire an outside planning consultant to work with the City to develop a plan
that would take those areas and permanently plan them.
• Consolidate the areas into a few specific plan areas. For example 2A and
2C might be a single specific planning area.
• Create Benefit Assessment Districts - -up to three of them
• If any development were to occur it would be done in such a way that all
parcel owners would gain some of the benefit. Thus economic benefits to
those who develop would in be used to preserve the open space from those
who do not.
• Sonoma County Open Space District dollars along with funds from the
benefit Assessment District would be used to place the undeveloped land
into permanent open space and agricultural easements
• The open space would be used for agriculture and provide sites for
resulting reuse of wastewater.
1. This would require a storage site. Perhaps the Vast Oaks Site.
2. This plan would utilized the wastewater pipe already stubbed up to
the corner of Synder and the Expressway. The pipe could be run up
the expressway right of way for a relatively small cost
• Hire a planning consultants who specialize in clustering development units into
small planned unit areas an is familiar with redevelopment and infill planning.
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June 23, 1998
Dear Members of City Council,
For the last three years, I have been a member of the Rohnert Park Swim Club. In that time, the
swim club has allowed many children and adults in our community to have the opportunity to take
part in a top -notch aquatic program. The swim club has provided me and many others not only
with excellent coaching in competitive swimming, but with life skills such as dedication,
commitment, time management, goal setting, and the ability to deal with adversity which I know
will continue to aid us in our lives outside of sports.
The Piranhas have grown into a well known and highly respected organization in the eyes of the
Northern California swimming community. We have won many individual team awards at the
local and regional level. But now we are at a crossroads in our evolution. The Rohnert Park
Swim Club, and with it, the town of Rohnert Park, is poised to move up to the next level, that of
a regional and nationally recognized force in aquatics.
There is, however, one thing that we are lacking which would help to make this next step a
reality, and that is a regional swim complex. Our current location is Sonoma State University, but
we are rapidly growing out of this facility. A well planned aquatic center with a 50 meter pool
would allow us to host large competitions which would bring great recognition, high- level
performers and much needed revenue to our community. A facility like this would also allow our
swimmers to train in a 50 meter pool instead of a 25 yard pool, which allows us to be up to speed
with the rest of the swimming world. Use of a facility of this kind wouldn't be limited to
competitive swimming. Scuba, lap swim, splash aerobics, swimming lessons, and even swim
teams from other towns could rent water time for their needs. Water polo, a sport growing in our
area which puts on many tournaments would be another beneficiary of a top -notch facility. The
Rancho Cotate Swimming and Diving team is also in need of an adequate facility for training and
competition.
Rohnert Park has made an excellent commitment to aquatics in the past. Neighborhood pools
have done a very good job of providing fun and elementary instruction for many of our young
people. It is time to take that commitment and run with it. We have the opportunity to give our
town an4 identity, one with positive connotations. We can help make the city of Rohnert Park a
center of positive action, a place which helps young people to grow into healthy adults well
equipped to deal with the problems and pressures of the modern world.
The plans for an aquatic complex have remained buried in the General Plan for many years. Now
is the time to move those plans up in our agenda. Please join us in support of this forward motion
and urge the city fathers to move on the plans to build a workable aquatic facility for Rohnert
Park and the rest of the North Bay. Help us reach out a helping hand to many other children.
Thank you for your time and support,
Vivian Snyder g
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