2005/05/16 Parks and Recreation Commission Minutes (3)ROHNERT PARK PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES
May 16, 2005
The Rohnert Park Parks and Recreation Commission met this date at 7:30 p.m. for a regular meeting at
the Rohnert Park city offices, 6750 Commerce Boulevard, Rohnert Park. The meeting was called to order
at 7:30 p.m. with Chair Bird presiding.
ROLL CALL Present: (7) Commissioners Bird, Black, Butler, Griffin, Hansen,
Rogers, and Stevens
Absent: (0) None
Also present for all or part of the meeting Recreation Services Manager Guy Miller.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES — Upon motion by Commissioner Hansen and second by Commissioner
Black, the minutes for the meeting of April 18a` were unanimously approved as submitted.
UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCE/PUBLIC COMMENT - None
SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCE/PUBLIC COMMENT - None
OLD BUSINESS
Playground Equipment Replacement —Recreation Services Manager, Guy Miller, introduced Ewing
Philbin and Marcella from Ross Recreation Equipment, who presented a power point slide show
with proposed playground equipment designs for the city parks where the playgrounds will be
renovated. The parks include Caterpillar, Cielo Circle, Colegio Vista, Sunrise and Ladybug. (A
copy of the power point presentation is attached to the original copy of these minutes.)
The Commission discussed visibility around the play equipment to ensure that Public Safety
officers will have clear sight lines. Mr. Philbin advised visibility is not a problem and also pointed
out that there are many color options for the equipment.
Commissioner Stevens asked about focusing on preschool play equipment at Caterpillar Park. Mr.
Philbin explained that when he met with Tom Kelley from Public Works that Mr. Kelley had
avised that the emphasis for this park will be for young children. Manager Miller advised that
there is another play area nearby that focuses on older children. Commissioner Stevens asked
about the safety at the park and referred to a report the Commission had received awhile back that
showed a higher incidence of police calls regarding this park. Some discussion followed. The
Commission also discussed the difference in the two options presented for Caterpillar Park.
Commissioner Hansen asked about maintenance and the life of the structures. Mr. Philbin
responded that painting is not required and the life of the structure is 100 years. He explained
when the equipment is installed a maintenance package is provided which includes information on
removing graffiti.
Manager Miller asked about the engineered wood fall material, and Mr. Philbin advised it is
considered an accessible surface and has been approved by the courts. Manager Miller advised
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that the city is in the process of replacing all the fall material in the city's parks and will also be
putting the fall materials in the parks where the equipment is being replaced.
Commissioner Black asked about problems with vandalism for the Spacenet that is being proposed
for Colegio Vista Park. Mr. Philbin explained that it is possible to replace just one loop if
damaged. Commissioner Griffin asked about flammability, and Mr. Philbin said the net is fire
resistant. He also stated no maintenance is required except the turnbuckles would have to be
tightened after six months. Commissioner Rogers asked about fading, and Mr. Philbin said it may
fade a little, but he didn't believe it would be a problem.
Commissioner Stevens asked about the fall material used around The Rock/The Ridge included in
Option B for Colegio Vista Park. Mr. Philbin said 12" of fall material is standard, but the city
could add more, if desired. Manager Miller asked about graffiti problems, and Mr. Philbin said the
equipment is resistant but could be tagged. Because it is textured, it would make graffiti more
difficult to remove. Marcella, Mr. Philbin's assistant, said the manufacturer told her The Rock/The
Ridge cleans very well by pressure washing, and the company provides touch-up paint.
Manager Miller informed the Commission that one of the ideas for Sunrise Park is to eliminate the
existing preschool structure and remove the tennis backboard, which has always been a good
target for graffiti and seems to be getting little or no use. If the backboard was removed, this area
would be used for a new playground, and some picnic tables would be added in the old play area.
Mr. Philbin explained that the Cool Toppers shown in Option A for Sunrise Park are floating roof '1
covers and can be easily removed in the winter. Some discussion followed on the S Park options.
Manager Miller explained that one City Council member, after visiting neighbors near Ladybug
park, has requested that the playground be moved to provide better sight lines. Engineering staff
has looked at the park and has suggested a new location behind the tennis courts. This area would
be smaller than the current site. Manager Miller stated he had asked Mr. Philbin to provide several
different proposals for this park. Mr. Philbin explained the new area is about one half the size of
the current area and pointed out the reasons for the new playground options being proposed since
there is traditional play equipment already located next door at LaFiesta School.
The Commission discussed using Cool Toppers at this park to integrate the play areas.
Commissioner Black asked about the advantage of installing The Rock/The Ridge play equipment
rather than bring in some large boulders for climbing. Mr. Philbin responded that the play
equipment would have insurance coverage and also has hand -holds that are designed for play.
Chair Bird asked about installation time, and Mr. Philbin said it would be approximately 6-8
weeks from the time the order is placed until the equipment can be used.
Manager Miller explained that only five parks were presented tonight because staff is holding off
on Civic Center Mini Park since some clarification is necessary. He asked how the Commission
would like to proceed. At their April meeting, the Commission discussed scheduling some public
hearings to get public input on the various proposals. Commissioner Rogers said he thought the
Saturday meeting that was held in Ladybug Park was very helpful and he would like to do
something similar for the other parks. Manager Miller explained that group has met two or three "1
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Commissioner Griffin said he thinks they should schedule the hearing in the City Council
chambers. He proposed that they could schedule a meeting in the C Section since three of the
parks are located in that area. Manager Miller responded that seeing the power point presentation
makes more of an impact and people will get a clearer idea of what is being proposed. He
suggested scheduling a special meeting for the public hearing. The Commission discussed how to
publicize the hearing by including a notice in the Community Voice and posting a notice in each
of the parks. Manager Miller said if the Commission preferred, he could try to keep the agenda for
their regularly scheduled June meeting as short as possible and use the major portion of the
meeting for the public hearing. The Commission agreed to this proposal.
Commissioner Griffin made a motion to schedule a public hearing to discuss the replacement of
playground equipment at the five city parks at the Commission's regular June meeting. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Butler with discussion following.
Commissioner Hansen asked about scheduling the meeting earlier in the evening. After discussion
Commissioner Stevens moved to amend the motion to begin the public hearing at 7 p.m. and to
include times for each specific park. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Griffin and
unanimously approved.
Roberts Lake Dog Park Bid Award — Manager Miller informed the Commission that on May 10a' the City
Council approved the low bid for the Roberts Lake Dog Park. The bid came in a little higher than
was budgeted and the City Council agreed to budget $45,000 in case of any overruns.
NEW BUSINESS
Establishment of Dog Parks at Benicia Park and the Rohnert Park Animal Shelter — Manager Miller
announced that the opportunity came up to establish two additional new dog parks. The first one
will be the Rohnert Park Animal Shelter in an area that is already fenced. In addition one Council
member asked about exploring the idea of using the shelter for doggie day care which Mickey
Zeldes, the supervisor, is looking into. Manager Miller explained a second site came up at Benicia
Park when the Cal Ripken Baseball League put extensive work into the B 1 field and put a
secondary fence inside the existing fence. This made an area fenced in on three sides and the city
will add gates and put up signs.
Commissioner Butler asked when the parks will be up and running, and Manager Miller said they
should be ready to go by the end of the summer. Commissioner Hansen asked if the Commission
should make a motion to encourage development of new dog parks.
Some discussion followed, and Commissioner Hansen made a motion that the Commission
encourages establishing dog parks in Rohnert Park since they are a benefit to the city and its
residents. If other opportunities arise, the Commission encourages the City to take advantage of
these opportunities. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Black.
Commissioner Butler clarified that the two new parks were already approved by the City Council.
Manager Miller replied yes, and with the apologies from the Interim City Manager and the City
Council since the opportunities camp up suddenly and they wanted to take advantage of them.
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Commissioner Black pointed out the advantages of having dog parks in the city and said she was
excited that the City is willing to think outside the box.
The motion was unanimously approved.
Presentation of Proposed Dog Park Rules and Regulations - Manager Miller handed out a list of
proposed dog park regulations and "petiquette" recommendations. He reported that with
Commissioner Black's assistance, they had met with a Santa Rosa group and John from the Marin
Humane Society and came up with the list of proposed regulations and "petiquette." (A copy of
the both lists is attached to the original copy of these minutes.)
He explained the regulations will be posted and can be enforced. The "petiquette"
recommendations will also be posted. A copy of the lists have been sent to Public Safety and
REMIF, the city's insurance carrier, for their input. The Public Safety representative said because
they are shorthanded, they may not be able to respond to violations and will not be patrolling the
park to ensure that the regulations are adhered to. Manager Miller advised the dog park rules will
not require any addition to the city's municipal code.
Commissioner Stevens asked how do other cities enforce the regulation that dogs must be
vaccinated and wear identification? Commissioner Black said most parks are self monitored, and
because the rules are posted, it empowers other people using the park. She stated it doesn't seem
to be the problem that people might think. She said they might have some volunteers who drop by -�
occasionally to monitor the park, but even without that, the parks seem to run just fine.
Commissioner Griffin made a motion to approve the regulations and "petiquette" as proposed.
Chair Bird seconded the motion.
Commissioner Hansen asked about unleashing dogs when entering the park. Commissioner Black
said this is a safety issue because when dogs are tethered they can't do their natural posturing, and
a lot of dogs are leash aggressive but not aggressive when off the leash. Commissioner Butler
asked if there are any breeds of dogs that are banned. Commissioner Black said the Best Friends
Canine Club does ban the bull breeds and the wolf half-breeds, but California law does not allow
breeds of dogs to be banned at dog parks. She said the difference in the Rohnert Park regulation is
requiring dogs to be neutered or spayed. Every class she has attended shows that unneutered dogs
are more aggressive.
Commissioner Hansen asked if the regulations could be reviewed in six months to make sure they
are doing what they are intended to do. Commissioner Black agreed they could review the
regulations although if any changes were made, the signs would have to be done again. She stated
they have found that people don't always read signs, and when they were putting together the
regulations, they discussed using signs with cartoons to catch people's attention. Commissioner
Rogers asked if the signs would be in more than one language, and Manager Miller said that
would be considered.
There being no further discussion, the motion was unanimously approved. -�
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Joint Meeting Parks and Recreation Commission and Planning Commission — Manager Miller advised
that the City Council would like to schedule a joint meeting with the Parks and Recreation
Commission and Planning Commission and suggested a tentative date of July 12t'. Commissioner
Butler advised he would be unable to come, and Commission Stevens stated he wasn't sure but
thought he might be out of town. The Commission agreed that the second City Council meeting in
July could be a second option.
Swimming Pool Status — 2005-06 Budget — Manager Miller said there has been a lot of discussion about
the city having five pools that are not being used to capacity. The City Council would like the
Commission to make some hard recommendations about what they would like to do with the
pools, whether closing some or establishing some spray parks.
Commissioner Griffin asked if the pool was removed from Ladybug Park would it improve the
sight -lines? Manager Miller replied this was discussed at the L Section meeting when they
discussed eliminating the pool and putting in a combination spray park, picnic area and play area.
He stated that spray parks do not necessarily require fencing. Two City Council members at the
meeting thought this would be a good option to explore. Ladybug could be a pilot park where the
city could try to do something different. Commissioner Butler said the group did want to keep the
Ladybug Recreation Building.
Commissioner Black asked if there is a report showing which pools are getting the most
.� attendance. Manager Miller said a report has been done every year, but he hasn't done it yet for
2094. He explained the reasons to consider the changes aren't because the pool isn't being
attended but because the Council would like to explore doing something new.
He recommended sending this to the Aquatics Committee and they can also look at a spray park in
conjunction with the renovations of the play area. He stated there are also spray parks that have
play structures built into them. Chair Bird asked about the timetable for this project, and Manager
Miller said he got the feeling that the Council would like a recommendation for the upcoming
fiscal year. The first step might be to get some cost figures on the installation of a spray park.
The Commission discussed whether to include discussion for this project at the June public
hearing. Manager Miller explained there are a lot of options, and this is more complicated than
installing playground equipment. They would need to have information to educate people on what
is included in a spray park. He agreed to include some information on spray parks for the June
meeting.
STAFF REPORTS
Department Highlights for April — Manager Miller gave a recap of the Recreation Celebration which was
held on May 7 at the Community Center complex. An estimated 600-700 people attended, and he
reported that the department would like to schedule the event again to take place around the
fountain instead of inside each building. He reviewed some of the events that were held and
thanked the community groups that participated. He reported that Candace Birchfield, the pottery
studio director, worked very hard on making the Clay Games a successful event. He mentioned the
Mayor attended and participated in the Clay Games.
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COMMISSION COMMITTEE REPORTS
Park Master Plan (PROS) Committee - Commissioner Stevens asked about the funding allocation for the
PROS Committee. Manager Miller stated the committee may need an allocation in case a
consultant needs to be hired. If approved, it would be included in the 2005-06 budget.
Commissioner Black asked about the committee members who have been absent from the
meetings. Chair Bird responded that this was discussed at their meeting and will be discussed
again at the next meeting. Manager Miller said this is on the agenda for discussion at the next
PROS meeting. He advised they have received one resignation.
Dog Park Committee - Commissioner Black reported she has some new membership forms for the Best
Friends Canine Club which she will submit to the Recreation Department. She said they had over
30 dogs at the park this morning including some former members visiting from Nebraska and
Illinois.
MATTERS FROMIFOR COMMISSIONERS
L Section Resident Meeting - Commissioner Butler reported a comment had been made at the L Section
meeting that many people from that section are taking their children and grandchildren to other
parks, and he would like to see city parks made more of a magnet to get residents back to the park.
Commissioner Rogers said some people attending the meeting said that the type of equipment at -�
Ladybug Park is not suitable, and it is important to keep demographics in mind when selecting
new equipment. Manager Miller said people at the meeting liked standard play equipment.
Fishing Derby - Commissioner Griffin asked about the fishing derby, and Manager Miller replied it is
scheduled for this weekend and suggested going to their web site for specific information.
Adopt A -Park - Commissioner Black asked the status of the Adopt -a -Park Program, and Manager Miller
said the project is on hold, but he thinks he has the problem with wording on the volunteer forms
resolved.
City Creeks- Commissioner Black mentioned that when walking her dog.on the city's creek areas, she has
noticed a lot of trash and observed a pile of waste bags at the end of one of the paths. She asked
about getting trash receptacles placed at the end of the paths. Manager Miller said he would have
to consult with Public Works. Commissioner Griffin asked about the possibility of putting a
standard rolling receptacle on the paths that could be picked up by the trash company. Manager
Miller said he would have to ask.
Commission Black suggested adding Adopt -a -Path to the Adopt -a -Park Program. Commissioner
Stevens said this could be a problem because of the homeless problem and asked who does the
creek maintenance. Manager Miller advised the creeks are owned by the Sonoma County Water
Agency, but he believes the Public Works Department oversees the path clean-up.
Country Club Drive Bridge - Chair Bird asked about the graffiti all over the Country Club Drive bridge,
and Manager Miller said he will pass this on to the Public Works Department.
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ADJOURNMENT - There being no further business before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned
at 9:58 p.m.
Chair Bird
Secretary
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Guy er
Recreation Services Manager
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